Some units still had access to M-14s and began using them on the battlefield. Their customer service was excellent, but I still have my doubts about the rifle. If you feel strong enough to carry a nearly 10-lb. It works well for me. All rights reserved. Next you can upgrade your stock and that choice can be made from a wide range of stocks. An AR with an ambi-safety (I am left handed) rubs my thumb/finger junction when I fire the weapon. The result is a powerful and handy .308 ready for anything. The next time I got the opportunity to see what a great rifle the M1A/M14 is, I was attending the Army National Match Gunsmithing Course at Rock Is- land Arsenal. The rear sight is an enlarged military aperture sight, with a .135-inch opening that makes target acquisition fast for open-sight matches, where speed is a requirement. The gun will work just fine if you adapt your shooting style to it, but it is not the most comfortable experience in the world. Hornady A-Max flew from the muzzle at 2598 fps. The length-of-pull (LOP) can be shifted from 11.5" to 14.5". The M1As worst critics online will tell you that the guns design itself literally prevents them from being accurized, due to the mechanics of how the rifles receiver fits into the stock itself. This Mossberg 26B bolt-action rifle in .22 caliber belonged to my dad, Robert Elmo Babington. And while the M14 may have left service as the primary rifle for the U.S. military relatively quickly, the spirit of the design has lived on with the M1A, introduced by Geneseo, Illinois Springfield Armory in 1974 and it was an immediate hit. From cold to warm it seems to move a bit. WebIn my opinion, 200 yards is this rifle's practical hunting range. I also picked up a nearly new, shot 50 times Predator Pursuit for $900 off of Gunbroker, nice varmint/deer package. On paper, mission accomplished! Springfield Armory M1A SOCOM 1450 at Palmetto State Armory Prices accurate at time of writing View Details Palmetto State Armory (See Price) Sportsman's Warehouse (See Price) Type your new password and hit button below to confirm it. Here, it will be up close and bad breath range. It never failed me, shot 1/2 M.O.A. You still need something between the gun and the rock or you can develop both recoil direction issues as well as barrel harmonic issues. I have trouble shooting off a bench with it. guns & Trained with an m14 in the Corps in '68..I can tell you that to obtain consistant groups requires proper sight alignment, sight picture, and a proper grip, and consistant weld. Not challenging your experience with and observations of the rifle. Nothing to do with what wounds are caused at that range, the assumption is if The course of fire was very well set up and ranges were fairly short, around 175 yards, since this course was primarily for law enforcement. All right, you have my attention! Springfield Armory M1A SOCOM 1450 at Palmetto State Armory Prices accurate at time of writing View Details Palmetto State Armory (See Price) Sportsman's Warehouse (See Price) Great article. Muzzle brake on SOCOM 16 CQB is very effective, and shorter barrel makes for some serious muzzle blast. The rifles were well cared for and I'm sure there was no "new" on any of the barrels but I told the guy assisting me right then an there that "I have GOT to get me one of these!!" Incentive is the key. Once the rifle starts the build process, unless you are really lucky, and/or really, really know what you are doing, that rifle's parts are staying with that weapon, period. In this article, Steve Sieberts reviews Springfield Armorys SOCOM 16 CQB rifle. Each has it's own characteristics and preferences. And for slinging shit, I would not have traded my "smoke pole" for a dozen M16s (which due to that damned recoil spring in the stock, I always thought it should have had "Mattel" stamped on the receiver. That is something to consider when Are they that different from the ARs and AKs were much more familiar with? Here's a closer look at the Springfield SOCOM 16 CQB M1A model designed specifically for up-close and personal situations. I have had no problem with iron sights.. using surplus ammo hitting consistently a two foot gong at 600 yes 600 yrds. Winchester's PDX1 Defender 120-gr. The gun industry is ripe with lying sacks. just to sell their product or people who claim they can do something and never willing to back it up in person. (Not available on M1A Tanker). Sorry to break the bad news to you but it is not the rifle. you a link to reset your password. Ready to fire? I think it balances a bit better, and I liked the sights on the Scout much better than the Socom. purchase helps support my work in bringing you more awesome gun and gear articles. Back off one turn on the gas cylinder lock. ABM ammo shot best groups of the day at 100 yards with Aimpoint installed. That little extra recoil, noise, and muzzle rise the SOCOM 16 offers make it damn enjoyable to shoot. It shoots very reliably and I love the looks and history. I have a M1A National Match in 6.5 Creedmoor. You had to be a torpedoman to play with full auto-anything. The AR-15 moves much less and is more accurate. The latest content straight to your inbox plus an automatic entry to each of our monthly gungiveaways! Velocity is the average of five shots, measured by a Labradar chrono, programmed to measure velocity 15 feet from the muzzle. Considering the size of the red dot at 100 yards, I was more than happy with that. The bag comes in Black, Tan or OD Green. I think this gun in the hands of a good shooter is easily a sub MOA gun. But the M1A has a solid pedigree for long-distance performance, so how far can this little gun go? One shoot we went to 800, but my slow load with a 60 grain V-max was key holing at 800. A variety of loads are available in the 250 to 600-grain range. I grew up shooting M1's. The M14 socom has a shorter barrel than the standard M14 and thus has a shorter effective range of about 500 yards. This is why any serious shooter of M1A match competitions will check EVERY ROUND for concentricity variations. As far as loosing facial hair my AR platforms are the worst. Seems like the supporters of this gun are supporters of the m14 not SA M-1A. Im not saying you dont know how to shoot, I am saying ARs are the most forgiving platform, having been designed by an aero space engineer and all, they have great ergonomics and manage more recoil themselves than any other system to date. Get proficient on YOUR time. KNIFE ATTACK! The Standard Issue M1A is a faithful semi-auto recreation of the original M14. My best target was shot at a Regional match which shot the 600 yard target first. WebThe Springfield Armory M1A is a semi-automatic rifle made by Springfield Armory, Inc., beginning in 1971, based on the M14 rifle, for the civilian and law enforcement markets in the United States. Once you grown used to 5.56 caliber rifles, you forget how much fun a full-powered rifle with a battle rifle or larger caliber can be. They even included the optics and mounts to ensure wed be able to repeat their results. Two metallic quick release (QD) flush cup sling swivel ports are located on the right and left sides near the muzzle with two more just above the AR-type removable pistol grip. parts until Springfield Armory, Inc. began So, lets take a look and compare it to my M1A Loaded Precision with an Archangel stock and optic. The guns action is glass bedded into the walnut stock, which overcomes the traditional issue M14s face with poor fitment apparently affecting accuracy. The M14 I shot in service compared to the m1a I purchased are two totally different dogs but they both like 162 and 168 grain bullets. .308 WIN MSRP $2,087 - $2,540 M1A Scout Squad Rifles Combining the legendary power and accuracy of the M1A with the quick handling and fast sight acquisition of a scout style rifle. One thing I really like about the safety on the m14/M1A is that if you forget that the safety is on and put your finger on the trigger (which of course should only be done if youre about to fire) your knuckle will hit the safety inside the trigger guard as an instant reminder that the gun is in fact NOT ready to fire. One day I happened to notice that the rear sight assembly was loose somehow. I had both the Scout and the Socom 16, and I liked the Scout better, so I kept it. anything extra and your Handloaded it shot groups from .50 to .75 all day long. Out of the box I've found the weapon to be very accurate with iron sights. How M-1A's equate to the real thing I have no idea. Im looking forward to seeing what kind of accuracy and distance I can get with the Scout Scope/match ammo and possibly an upgraded trigger. Anyways for every 1 good review I found 5 bad. I packed an m 14 for two years while stationed in Germany, and I was a combat medic. I shot the m-14 briefly in the Marines. The forward scout-style scope rail optimizes the unparalleled close quarters capabilities of the M1A SOCOM 16. Still I qualified good with it. This is not a AR 10 ( I own a Sig 716 Patrol 1st Gen), I wonder if the difference was that you were using .308 instead of the 7.62 NATO round that the rifle was made to use.I wouldn't use .223 in my AR 15 that is chambered to use 5.56 just because, We thought that as well, but the M1A barrels themselves have ".308" stamped into them . If somebody wants a 308 battle rifle I always recommend just go buy a AR 10 and be done with it. I had to be qualified with that thing at all times. The muzzle brake on the M1A SOCOM 16 offers exceptional performance with a minimal footprint. Go figure??? The G3 and FAL better battle rifles? Fast forward a bit past a lot of bureaucracy and a point where the US almost adopted the FN FAL, and finally we have NATOs adoption of the 7.62x51mm cartridge as its official battle rifle round and with it, the US adopted the M14 in the late 50s. The .458 SOCOM treads hard on its heels, but with a flatter (albeit still arcing) trajectory. Accuracy of these guns went sub-MOA for five shots at 100 yards with good ammo. Even with no magnification, author shot groups of about two inches. Been shooting these little guys for three decades & have found some quirks that need addressing before they shoot well. It never was match grade when manufactured. Sure, people can hit targets further than this, but its uncommon, to say the least. Since I was a member of the Units Pistol Team, I was able to attend the course during the off-season. Here's the inside story of what they found and how they're rebuilding an industry giant. Next you can put a tactical 1913 rail made by Troy it is the length of the hand guard too the rear sights ($200.00). Early M1A rifles were built with surplus G.I. To facilitate easy transport, this M1A arrives in a black soft case in which one entire interior surface is a loop side fastener. Also, it seems to be more consistent once it warms up. My friend pulling targets down in the pits said the Marine Sargent supervising and making sure no one's head became a desirable target asked if I was using a scope because my groups were so close. Multiple intensity settings include off, four nightvision compatible settings and eight daylight settings, one of which is for extra-bright sunlight conditions. The charging handle is on the right, the safety lever is mounted in front of the trigger guard and the magazine release is mounted directly behind the magazine well. Nothing to do with what wounds are caused at that range, the assumption is if The issues you guys had with the stock was/is a huge problem (hence the pistol grips of the AR-15's), and thus the Sage Platforms for the weapon's furniture. This rifle really brings back memories. We don't doubt it at all - it seems the general consensus is that the M14 was, on average, a much better performing rifle than the M1A - though some folks still swear by their M1As as well. Wonderful rifle gives me lots of headaches on my reloading if I was more into people knowing or I lived and who I was I do a video on it myself but I try to stay to myself. Ive seen marine Corp team shooters shoot 3 groups at 300 yds with irons. I never was a particularly good shooter but a 99 at 600 isnt too shabby! My point is, this platform takes a lot to get use to and to get consistent. We should note though that youll likely want to invest in a cheek riser if you wind up using an optic on these rifles, as they tend to sit quite high above the bore. The case holds two long guns and two handguns, and has two long pockets for shooting sticks, bipods, or a spotting scope. Then I came across this video review. .308 WIN The National Match came in at 1.25 MOA with a Vortex 4-16x optic, and the SOC16 shot 2MOA with a Vortex 1-6 both at 100 yards. This lets the shooter go from scope to iron sights very quickly if needed. My loaded M1a shoots sub MOA @ 100 yards & has since 1998 when I purchased it. ESPECIALLY considering your two shots hitting the same mark with the rest scattered, indicating the gun is on but the shooter's picture is probably off. The civilian market in High-Power competition only saw M1A's on the firing line, standard or highly accurized, through the late 1990's. Also, as designed by the military the gas system was only designed to handle 147 grain projectile with fast burning powders.. 460 meters/500 yards here. Mounting the Leupold on the SOCOM 16s rail was accomplished with the excellent Leupold QR rings. This was a 100 meter range so it was a little over 100 yards and, in all fairness, I had done some competitive shooting but only in small bore. Springfield Armory recommends you seek qualified and competent training from a One shoot we went to 800, but my slow load with a 60 grain V-max was key holing at 800. Combine that with shooting something new, I think the conclusions draw themselves. Lightweight and agile rifle solutions that come packed with enhanced components selected for rugged durability. All rights reserved. Type your email address and well send Considering the fact that it was 100+ degrees on our shoot day and firing a shitton of .308 on guns with meat tenderizers on their buttplates isnt the most pleasant thing in the world, we resigned ourselves to chill on the M1As and take them to a local range to shoot groups and get them dialed in. It cannot be operated from the shoulder at all. The SOCOM 16 is most certainly an effective weapon, but its also a fun weapon. I would love to shoot the M1A. Just wanted some feedback from people that But before we get started, lets clarify something lots of folks get confused on. Popular 9mm Ammo. The iron sights consist of a winged XS Sight Systems .125" blade with a Trijicon tritium insert in front and a fully adjustable .135" ghost-ring aperture in back. This one is a headscratcher. The National Match M1A is, according to Springfield, hand-built to win competitions. You just found a new world to explore and its a little unnerving. One of the weirdest parts of the entire experience was the tendency for both guns to pull off consecutive rounds either through the same hole or touching one another, only for the next round to be a complete flier somewhere else on the paper. This is one of the key reasons why the Army was unable to accurize these weapons effectively. How neat is that!?!?! Any more or less and the accuracy becomes squirrely. Ask any Camp Perry M1A shooter. Also found a screw in my grip back out on it's own. With ergonomics, the Garand and M14 family are sleek and well balanced rifles compared to others. He references head position. I felt I was able to get quick follow-up shots from a standing or benched position. The M1A SOCOM 16 CQB in .308 Win. The primary complaints were fragile receivers, malformed bolts, poor accuracy, and instability during automatic fire. Often lauded for its durability and accuracy, the M1A platform chambered in 7.62 NATO/.308 Win. That being said, the company has done a good job of giving it a balanced feel off the bench and making it 2 lbs. I later purchased a relatively inexpensive scout long eye relief scope from UTG. The M16As effective range is only about 400 yards. Interesting though, I've had a c308 laying around my closet for 2 years and really didn't like it even though I hadn't fired it. This design is going to be around for a long time. If the experience with the M1As is really in your head. Wow. Like its compatriots, the SOCOM 16 CQB is a semi-automatic rifle that operates using the battle-tested M1A gas piston, a rotating bolt and an all-steel action. However, the sling mount kinda gets in the way of what, for me, feels like a natural hand placement and youve got to keep your fingers away from the op-rod all the same. Frankly it gets a little annoying people talking poorly of this rifle or any other when 99% of the time, it is a bad shooter and or bad expectations. Steve Sieberts has over 40 years in the firearms field. There are very few sources online that have the credibility to be able to tell the truth, this is one of them. On a SOCOM 16 features a forward-mounted optic rail in the Effective maximum range is under 100 yards. But I think the gun gets a bad rap it doesn't deserve. So, the safety being operated from inside the trigger guard is not "dated" or inconvenient. What weight bullet are you using? Based on one of the most prolific and popular pistols in small arms history. Sure, people can hit targets further than this, but its uncommon, to say the least. The course lasted a week and included night firing with what was then state of the art in night visionthe AN/PVS-2. He was born in 1921 and later served as a navy corpsman in Japan and Korea. Look at slow motion videos of an AK-47 vs an AR-15. trigger pull. These rifles can be very accurate if you're willing to invest the time & $$. The SOCOM 16 CQB is one of the smallest, most compact variants of the Springfield Armory M1A rifle. Totally different way of handling the M-14/M1A platform (DuckDuckGo / G*^%&e Sage Stocks and you will see what I mean). Definitely was you. Chronograph results from my Oehler 35P were that the velocity loss is only about 60 fps from the normal length 22-inch M1A barrel. "M1A" is a proprietary name for Springfield Armory's M14-pattern rifle. Sets the standard for ergonomic comfort and performance. Editors Note: Please be sure to check out The Armory Life Forum, where you can comment about our daily articles, as well as just talk guns and gear. Aimpoint T2 Micro; Trijicon RMR; wars in Iraq and Afghanistan opened a need for a military rifle that could engage targets at ranges far outside the M-16/M-4s maximum effective range. So eye sight picture is challenging. I am left handed and know several other lefty shooters that can't second any of your claims about the AR. I eventually started using a bipod. Muzzle velocity for this test was a zippy 2969 fps., or 104 percent of list velocity. The M1A SOCOM has the exact same action and mechanics, thus the dependability we have come to expect. This is what it comes down to with a m1a, shooter, then rounds, then trigger, then making sure all mounts are secure if if scoped. Oops, there's been an error. Even with no magnification, author shot groups of about two inches. I had a socom 16 and didn't shoot worth a damn. Forged in the fire of disciplined craftsmanship. As for accuracy, it is probably due to inexperience. Click the Go To Forum Thread link below to jump in! Snipers in ww2 had even lower standards. Then the AR-10 platform got going at flank speed, and those accurized M-14's (as far as know) went back into storage. Get Our Top Shooting Drills and Zeroing Targets ($47 value - but FREE for a limited time). Springfields techs looked the guns over and purportedly found zero issues with any aspect of them. Subscribe and turn on notifications to be the first to know when we release new firearms. Fast forward to 2007ish and I bought a Brand New Springfield Armory Super Match at a local Gunshop. I'm a little surprised with Springfield's quality control that such a defect made it through the process on a $2,000 gun. Its not 3 gun fun, but youll notice the successful 3 gunners incorporate key element from high power. I ran the SOCOM 16 CQB through its paces with a variety of ammunition, including 155-grain Hornady Steel Match, Black Hills 168-grain, and 175-grain ABM tactical ammunition. Henry Repeating Arms recently presented a $25,000 check a nonprofit organization that provides support and programs for the families and co-workers of firefighters killed in the line of duty. Have adequate ventilation at all times. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The vaunted mid 20th century designed AR15 is over 60 years old, and only 25 years younger than the "antique" Garand design. Accuracy results are the average of four, five-shot groups, over a Sinclair shooting rest, at 50 yards. Smith & Wesson's new M&P FPC is a compact, folding pistol-caliber carbine chambered in 9 mm Luger and designed to accept the company's M&P handgun magazines. Dovetailed into the receiver above the ejection port is a Springfield Armory Clip Guide red-dot mount supporting a Vortex Optics Venom 3 MOA red-dot sight (VMD-3103). The SAINT offers upgraded features where they matter most. Cheers. WebThe SOCOM 16 put three shots into about two inches, with the other two shots opening the group up to about ten inches using the Hornady Steel Match ammo. Springfield then mounted optics to the rifles using a 4th Gen Steel Receiver mount and tested them thusly. - YouTube 0:00 / 9:27 Springfield Armory M1A SOCOM 16 Accuracy Test. Good shooters will no doubt stretch that a lot, with high BC bullets, but big game is way different than steel gongs. (Lucky bastids) As a kid from Texas this was a day doing one of my favorite things with a new rifle thrown in to boot. Here's what I've learned after 12 years of intimate marriage: it did not take too much work to get a group about 1.25 inches at 100 yards. Even with no magnification, author shot groups of about two inches. It also seems unlikely that wed be able to get two rounds to touch back to back if we werent decent shots to begin with, only to have a subsequent round end up nowhere near the previous two. This compact sight provides 10 illumination levels, fully multi-coated optics, a water resistant single-piece chassis and ships with a protective rubber cover. Standard defensive pistol calibers like 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP excel in the 0- to 25-yard range with a rough effective range of 50-yards or so. Interesting review and a bummer about your results. on the GI length barrel, can be used as a crude, but effective range finder. The magazine insertion issue is easily resolved by standard 20 round magazines, with the extra length offering superior advantage and grip to rock the magazine in. Here was my old heavy friend back. You do not pay Internal Adjustment Range: 75 MOA windage & elevation Click Value: 1/4 inch, Tube Diameter: 30mm, Weight: 14-1/4 ounces Overall Length: 12 inches Reticle: Fire Dot Duplex (illuminated) Price: $599.95 >> Click Here << To See Performance Charts And More Photos Thanks to the team at GUNS Magazine click here to visit them for this In short, I think the M14 is one of the most iconic battle rifles ever. A variety of loads are available in the 250 to 600-grain range. Admittedly, we are not marksmen, and while we all have a good amount of long-range shooting experience, our inability to hit relatively close targets with these guns seemed pretty damn wild. Just wanted some feedback from people that if u are going to war u want the m1a. WebM1A SOCOM 16 Rifles In both tactical and traditional forms, the SOCOM 16 will answer your call for a compact tactical rifle without sacrificing power. We hate SPAM and promise to keep your email address safe. I have the Scout Squad, which is a hybrid of the socom and standard. With good discipline they are the best irons ever put on a combat rifle, but sloppy cheek welds and head placement turn them into a nightmare. With its medium-weight National Match barrel and adjustable stock, that rifle can really reach out to far-off targets. I own two of the Springfield's M1A. But with the M1A SOCOM 6 CQB, they are. We'll send you the latest guides and training tips geared A good Tam sling worked well in this aspect. Other stock colors are OD Green and Black. It also has some unique features. The piece that always nagged at me is that it has never shot as accurately as I thought it should. I have owned the National Match, Standard and Socom versions of the M1A, I had all the same issues, they are extremely finnicky with optics and mounts. That seems like very poor quality control with no recalls, even though many people are having similar problems. 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