FLOTHE: An older car. CINDY: Uh huh. Im just following my gut, and if its speaking to me, then Im doing it. There, he held her captive and proceeded to rape and torture her. FLOTHE: What was your phone number at that time? So he shows up Sunday night, then. CINDY (cont. It left me wanting to watch it over and over again even though Im in it. What are your thoughts on the reception to Spring Breakers? CINDY: Uh huh. Your email address will not be published. CINDY: Up to the house. My left wrist, right there You mentioned a minute ago, Cindy, that he wanted you to go home with him, or something, and you didnt want to go home with him, or He was afraid of running into friends, relatives or acquaintances of people who knew his many victims. And he had pulled out his wallet and showed me a whole bunch of money Vanessa Hudgens turns in a surprisingly raw and emotionally powerful performance in Scott Walker's suspenseful thriller, The Frozen Ground, as 17-year-old street hooker Cindy Paulson, one of. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. He takes me up the stairs to the garage, I mean, to the house. Though Cindy was able to describe her attacker and his home in great detail, it didnt make any difference. But when Cindy reached out to the police, they believed Hansen's story, which was again backed up by his powerful friends. And that he had to work and he couldnt do it then. Whether shed been taken to his house or not, in the end these women (or the known victims at least) wound up in the Alaskan wilderness. CINDY: You know, I didnt feel nothing, cause I knew I wasnt gonna live. (Sound of pages turning. Im not going to help you do that, all right? Is there anything else that you have coming up? And hes about five six, weighs about 170 pounds. FLOTHE: Did he tell you what his name was? He seemed really like a pretty good guy. I just wanted to make her as full-hearted as I possibly could. It was plain. I play Cereza which means Cherry in Spanish which says a lot about the character. If Im unsure of something, I promise to tell you, and yall the dates in this case about drove me nuts. CINDY: All right. Hansen later became one of the first prisoners at the newly opened Spring Creek Correctional Center, where he had remained until this year. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Darla had truly believed that if she stuck it out, she could eventually talk Robert into going to church with her more often she thought that she could save the soul of the man shed vowed before God to love, and her marriage would be fixed as well. He pulled over and I recognized him immediately. You enjoy my work and would like to read exclusive articles, you can join my Patreon for as little as $3! We all have the same needs. Purchase Butcher, Baker, Your email address will not be published. FLOTHE: Where did he park the car? Cindy Paulson was Neighborhood All-Star on July 14. That seemed to be a common enough thing to do, plenty of troubled Americans had moved to Alaska to start a new life, and this worked out splendidly for Robert! And I was supposed to meet him but I didnt show up cause I overslept. CINDY: Yes. It was a red scar FLOTHE: Thank you. He was also an avid hunter. Darla had known that shed married a dedicated hunter, so when Robert had taken time away from the family, it was easy to explain away. Im sorry that these photos needed to be included, but we really cant discuss this particular serial killer without speaking of hunting. Glenn had been involved in the investigation of three murdered women; these victims had obviously been connected, they had all been discovered at least partially nude, theyd been shot with the same type of firearm, and buried in a shallow grave. CINDY: Tons That was everywhere in the whole In the basement there was fish, there was wolf skin, there was stuffed animals everywhere. CINDY: Uh huh. FLOTHE: OK. And when he pulled up, did you just go get in the car, or did you talk to him He spent many of the final years of his life working as a jailhouse barber. What was your reaction when you first read the script? FLOTHE: Turning the tape off at 8:34 pm. They told Hansen they had seized his map marked with 17 locations, spots that they believed indicated the locations of bodies. She was hysterical, half-clothed, and had an unbelievable story of survival to tell. I understand youre in early talks for The Kitchen Sink which has been described as a monster genre mash-up. Your email address will not be published. Eventually his buddys conscience got the better of him, and he confessed his crimes to the police; for his role, Robert was sentenced to three years incarceration. You know, I was supposed to meet him. Still, knowing something and proving it are two different things, and Glenn was going to need a good deal of help solving this case. CINDY: I believe it was on a Friday and I gave him my telephone number and he called me on a Saturday. He joined the ADN in 2004 and was also an editor and investigative reporter at KTUU-TV. FLOTHE: Um hmm. How did talking to the real Cindy Paulson inform that process? Investigators have said that in some instances Hansen would rape the women but return them to Anchorage, warning them not to contact authorities. 'We're not trying to solve the crime. And he was very kind and giving as an actor, as well as John. It was funny though, cause before, when he was getting ready to take me to his cabin, he said that, um, there had been seven other girls before me. I wanted her to be like a real human being because its easy to label someone whos stuck in that circumstance. Required fields are marked *. CINDY: Nope. But that's not the only discrepancy, another Hansen victim, DeLynn Frey, reportedly also was found near the same lake on the same day, but Mr Hoage said Frey was found near another lake in 1985. Hansen landed in a federal prison in Pennsylvania but didn't get along with other inmates.He served time in Minnesota before returning to Alaska in May 1988, corrections officials said at the time. He was really sweet. He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. He picked her up in town and told her he was driving her to his home in Muldoon, he said. The security guard had came up I dont know if I was in the back laying down when he [the security guard] did. Glenn Flothe, AST. I actually shot that before I filmed this (The Frozen Ground) interestingly enough. Youve taken on some very interesting, challenging roles lately in different genres like this film and also Gimme Shelter. The killer received a 461-year sentence in February 1984, pleading guilty to four of the murders. In June 1983, one of his victims, Cindy Paulson, managed to escape his car as he loaded his plane to take her to his cabin. Hudgens: I thought it was pretty spot on. Survivor Cindy, who is a married mother of three today. He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. We recently landed an exclusive interview with Hudgens who talked about her reaction when she first read the script, how meeting the real Cindy Paulson helped inform her portrayal of the character, why it was important to her that audiences see Paulson as a real human being and not a stereotype, what she learned from working with experienced actors like Cage and Cusack who inspired her performance, how Walkers enthusiasm and energy kept the atmosphere on set upbeat despite the dark subject matter, and what she discovered about herself in the process of making the film. (pause) No matter what her husband did, even after hed been arrested and jailed for rape, she remained by her husbands side. And that, um, I was lucky because usually the other ones stayed a week. FLOTHE: Make sure you look through the whole book before you decide. FLOTHE: At this time, so I know what youre talking about, cause I have not been in the house, Cindy Hansen later told investigators that his first kill involved a woman he assumed to be a topless dancer or prostitute. How do you feel about the final film now that youve seen it? Roberts first kill is either believed to have occurred in 1971, 1972, or 1973. So the next day, which was Sunday (sniffles), I was on Fourth and Denali and this gentleman had been by and pulled in the parking lot and offered me, and I got in the car voluntarily, I was talking with this man and he offered me $200 for a blowjob in the car. FLOTHE: OK. After being raped and tortured in the basement of Hansen's home, teen sex worker Cindy Paulson made a run for it at the airport while her captor was busy loading his plane. * I strive to be as concise as possible when it comes to facts as theres no telling what an article may be used for. Its going to have to be a little bit vague on that. In the 1960s he moved to Anchorage and opened a bakery of his own in a strip mall at Ninth Avenue and Ingra Street. CINDY: It was a black He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. CINDY: Um hmm. And he fuckin had a tan or an Army green tan coat or Army green And boots. He had been transferred to the hospital on Wednesday. It is so nice when you dont have to build a character from the ground up by yourself. As you know, the only electronic I open is a crappy android. Every time it was in my face. When police were able to interview her, she explained her grizzly tale in detail. Hansen likely would have continued to kill and escape justice if one of his intended victims hadn't escaped. Humans could have wings, tentacles or an extra ARM 'in the next few decades' thanks to leaps in human DIY fruit and veg! FLOTHE: Do you feel that he was going to hurt you? Anchorage's jail is one of the state's only correctional facilities with a medical unit. FLOTHE: Oh and you saw a sign that said Dead End? Hansen said she had a knife in her purse. 10 Underrated Thrillers That Are Destined To Become Cult Classics, 10 Best Movies Trilogies Ranked From 'Spider-Man' to 'The Lord of the Rings', This Spielberg Movie Only Made a $1 Box Office Profit. As shown in 'The Frozen Ground,' Cindy Paulson was Hansen's only victim who got away while he was trying to load her into his aircraft. Kids can be so cruel; while the boys his own age poked fun of and beat on him, the girls all laughed about how ugly he was. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. (laughs) Its a quick little cameo. Flothe (Sep 27, 1983) Cindy Paulson talks about Robert Hansen CINDY: (Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. CINDY: No. He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. FLOTHE: There is a kind of lightish scar there on your I think before you mentioned something being on the roof of the house. BC is creating the space for more diverse thoughts and experiences and bringing better solutions to our clients as a result, she adds. He was 75 years old. Rothschild recounted watching Hansen transform into "the monster he was" the day prosecutors sat down with Hansen and laid out the evidence against him. Jack Halcombe (Nicolas Cage), who convinces her to help him bring Hansen to justice. So its immoral to make snap judgments about people. Brown and Caldwells former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. Required fields are marked *. Still, he couldve taken a life before he was busted, who knows? Other times, he would let the women go free in the wilderness and then hunt them with his rifle. CINDY: Yep. Can you tell us how that all came about? CINDY: Because when I drove past the house there was a sign that said Dead End. Uh huh. CINDY: Right around Fourth and Denali. FLOTHE: About how long did you have contact with him on Friday? All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and theres no telling how much longer he wouldve lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of 83. Maybe they were different frames. Thats another character that I dove very deeply into. FLOTHE: Hmm. FLOTHE: OK. Was it a blue color? Hansen was officially charged with the abduction and rape of Cindy Paulson and the murders of Joanna Messina, Sherry Morrow, Paula Goulding, and the unidentified body known as "Eklutna Annie." On February 28, 1984, Robert Hansen was sentenced to 461 years plus life in prison with no parole. CINDY: Uh huh. And we got to the house and he drug me downstairs to the as soon as you walk in theres a carpet to the right. I didnt know, there was, uh I I I couldnt see her that night cause it was during the week and Im running my bakery and I start there at 1:00 in the morning and, uh, she give me a phone number there for her at one of the motels. When he was arrested for the sexual assaults, Robert had claimed to have been an innocent man, and she believed what hed told her; shed had her suspicions that her husband may have been a cheater who possibly enjoyed the company of an escort every once in a while, but a woman killer? Kidnapped: The True Story of Cindy Paulson, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. What was the most difficult scene for you to shoot and why? CINDY: He just drove by. Cause this motherfucker wasnt getting away with it. In her case, becoming authentic on the job took 10-plus years. FLOTHE: Or did he give you any money? FLOTHE: The same person. And um, after he had got the condom on, I kept doing it, and then he kept feeling around my neck, like he was just trippin, playing around with my neck and my necklaces. I mean, bills, or did he just give you the change? About four stairs to get into the house. John A. Paulson founded Paulson & Co., an investment management firm based in New York. CINDY: I believe it was right there right across from the Sheraton on Fifth and Denali. CINDY: It was a really dark color. CINDY: I gave him the number at the Big Timber. Hudgens: I wanted her to be a normal teenage girl. CINDY: He said that he would like to have some company. CINDY: Yeah. FLOTHE: This car that was in the driveway how new or old was this car? FLOTHE: And what color were his boots? "On this day we should only remember his many victims and all of their families, and my heart goes out to all of them," said Glenn Flothe, a retired Alaska state trooper who was instrumental in Hansen's 1984 capture. Hudgens: Honestly, its even better than I thought it was going to be. FLOTHE: Did he call you first or did he just come by? Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. FLOTHE: Was there anything else unusual about the house? FLOTHE: Describe this man to me. Required fields are marked *. In the early morning of June 13th 1983, (months before the other bodies were found) Cindy Paulson appeared on the side of the road. The woman, who was believed to in her late teens was found on April 25, 1984, near Horseshoe Lake. Im not involved though. Hansen grew up in Iowa, the son of immigrant bakers. Sadly in a roundabout way Robert brought upon his own two children the same thing which had traumatized him, his kids were bullied mercilessly for their fathers evil acts. He died in prison last month aged 75. It was super fun and really quick. Hudgens: Thats always been the goal. Robert chased after his intended victim, but it was no use. "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. CINDY: Its blue with a big ol picture window and the whole house is If you drive down Old Harbor Road, the windows on the right side and the garage is to the left. RH: Yes. Lets touch on this serials background for a minute, because thats important when looking at a killer. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/cindy_interview_mofo.mp3, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. Hudgens: I think that theyre doing one. If youre very sensitive to that sort of thing (I know that much of my audience is ) then you may wish to skip this one. Often the family of these killers catch a ton of hell from the public, how could they possibly share their lives with a monster and not know it? In a police interview after Paulson's escape, she told him she got the feeling other people may live in the house. The woman tried to escape and he pulled out a gun, he said. He remains active in the markets. FLOTHE: On the inside of your left wrist. While she was in her element, developing regional client solutions with diversely talented teams, she realized that her clients and many colleagues did not know much about her personal life. Uh, the first time I seen CINDY PAULSON was about a block west of, I think its a 76 station on the corner there of Gambell and 5th. FLOTHE: And he contacts you at where? [Installment Three]. Hudgens: Nothing that I want to talk about quite yet. Once theyd arrived Robert left his handcuffed victim in the back seat of his vehicle while he loaded his aircraft as per usual; Cindy waited until her captor was distracted, and when she saw her chance she jumped out of the car and ran for her life! For the life of me, i cant see any reason why the state of Alaska, or anyone would keep robert Hansen alive after his conviction Why would you keep a monster like this alive and have the peoples tax money feed such an animal for years.. Cant wrap my head around it.. Alaska does not have the death penalty and has never had it (since Statehood). Cause at the time, I was very new to Alaska and I dont never go to anybodys house. He confessed to sometimes releasing the women in the woods in order to stalk and hunt them before the murders. Im not correct on the times, OK? FLOTHE: When you drove up to the house did you see any other cars there at the time? A metallic green Buick Century. The work is being paid for by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and a former forensic anthropologist for the Georgia Bureau of Investigation is working for the center on the case. If hed just murdered those women, they couldnt have turned him in, and he wouldnt have been in trouble not committing violent crimes was never an option. Thats why he did it. Does he tell you anything at that point, once hes got the handcuffs on I personally loved it. Flothe said. So you go into the garage, what happens then, when you get into the garage? Its by far the craziest transformation Ive had yet. Its nice because I can watch it from an outsiders perspective and be sucked into it, which is cool. (inaudible). And she, uh, cant remember if she wasnt there or she couldnt couldt meet me. Glenn Flothe and his wife, Cheryl, after her successful kidney transplant in 2007 CINDY: OK, well I had got in the car to give the guy a blowjob. Hudgens: I dont like talking about anything until I sign my contract, which I havent done yet, but it will happen most likely pretty soon. I always wanted to do dramas. I was kinda trippin I really thought (inaudible) Hes got like frog warts on his face. Scott did an amazing job at keeping a very steady uproar and pace. FLOTHE: Two hundred dollars is a lot of money Wonderful tram tour guide Cindy is starting her fourth year as a trail tram tour driver for MCRF. FLOTHE: Did you notice anything about the sights? In the film inspired by true events, Hudgens character forms an unlikely partnership with Alaska State Trooper, Sgt. People either loved it or they hated it. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. Vanessa Hudgens turns in a surprisingly raw and emotionally powerful performance in Scott Walkers suspenseful thriller, The Frozen Ground, as 17-year-old street hooker Cindy Paulson, one of the few victims that managed to escape Alaskas most notorious serial killer, Robert Hansen (John Cusack). FLOTHE: The same car as on Friday? It was smooth. But aside from that, he just let me play and take it wherever I wanted. FLOTHE: At what time did he call you on Saturday? Its very specific and unique, and its that type of film. Did he have a moustache, Cindy? It had never crossed her mind. FLOTHE: OK. And hes driving the same car. Just his whole work ethic I found fascinating, so I jumped at the opportunity to be able to do something with him. Your email address will not be published. Laurel Andrews was a reporter for the Anchorage Daily News, Alaska Dispatch News and Alaska Dispatch. And he had a green shirt or else it was plaid. She was a prostitute who was kidnapped and raped before managing to escape, but when she went to the police, Hansen evaded arrest because the lead investigator didn't . OK, well he was taking me from being downstairs to the airport, to go get in his plane, the seat was not in the back seat, it was in the trunk, cause he kept going from the trunk carrying things to fit in the airplane. Now a bad childhood doesnt excuse cold blooded murder, of course, but it can help shed light on how some people are capable of committing atrocities such as these while the majority of us are not. Construction of the trans-Alaska oil pipeline ignited nightlife in the city blocks surrounding his bakery. Now, from reading your report apparently you had a pretty good description of the house that you gave the police. I saw him the next day, Sunday. Hansen was the subject of a 2013 film titled, 'The Frozen Ground,' which starred Nicolas Cage as an Alaskan State Trooper investigating the slayings, with actor John Cusack portraying Hansen.