One thing that has always stayed with me (either by reading Libby's grandmother's account of it or hearing Libby say it on a social media video) is that Libby was upset that her phone had to be reset to the factory settings and she lost photos stored in her phone. Discover Delphi Lawrence's Biography, Age, Height, Physical Stats, Dating/Affairs, Family and career updates. so many reddit threads i didn't read all the way through. Also.its such a small town. R113 I have read that a tree branch was inserted into Abbys abdomen, but not sure how (as in pressed into her stomach or inserted into her vagina). He told police he would find girls on Instagram and then ask them to talk to him on Snapchat. (this is only my opinion and many disagree). When LE speaks of a religious aspect to the poses, I think it could be that Libby was posed to look like she had been crucified with blood coming from her hands and the from the wound that the stake made in her abdomen. I take it with a grain of salt. Not saying they werent expecting to meet someone, just that kids do hang out in nature, doing nothing. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------. Stop. I think that a new investigator was put on the case of the Delphi Murders in April 2020. I hope this revives momentum in the investigation and finally leads to an arrest. If they had met up with more people, he would have aborted. Her mother wept audibly, McCauley wrote. I suspect he was there on a few occasions looking for the right moment and a victim. This change could help broaden the search for Abby and Libbys killer. It seems he came prepared with a weapon. "When we decided that, through the information we received, that we were going to release the second sketch I dont believe the individual knew we were going to do that. R345, it's stated upthread that his creepy tattoo pre-dates the Delphi murders. I hope I'm just seeing things and nothing that horrific happened to the girls. And hes also not lithe and skinny like a teen or young adult. I doubt that they were shot to death, though, given that these trails are frequented by pedestrians/hikers fairly regularly, and are adjacent to the main town. We know how the girls died. But then they lawyer up and more harm is often done. She passed away on April 11, 2002 in Northport, which is located on Long Island in the state of New York, USA. With investigators remaining tight-lipped about the unsolved investigation and years since a Delphi murders update, several true-crime media veterans and former investigators have tried to pick up some of the slack as far as public interest in the case over the years. I hope he is the one who did this. That's it. R320--- I had forgotten about that murder, thank you. The families sponsored a food drive for charity in the girls' names. And while I understand there is need for some hold back, it's inexplicable they waited so long to release the video and audio. I have to read a little and then back off for awhile. On the other hand, his own family has said he is a monsterhis brother saying that he attempted to drown him as a young child. [post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Since then, no other potential suspects have been named by investigators. If ithe Bridge Man was someone in law enforcement, the girls may have initially trusted him and acted with compliance if he showed his badge. They also released an audio recording of a man believed to be the suspect instructing the girls to go down the hill.. If its PB what an arrogant fuck, showing up to search and to the press conference. So you're saying you're one of those people who thinks he dug up photos of Libby one or two years BEFORE the murders and tattooed her on his arm before killing her and Abby? Audible gunshots would have potentially drawn attention. What I found interesting, is when she is asked about it she simply states that he was trying to help, which to me does not sound like a denial. People believe it [though] because its on the internet.. The suspect appears to be older. This case got under my skin. R462 That was the fat pedo's reset of his phone. There were no eyewitnesses to the crime and little forensic evidence for the jurors to consider. Libby fought back. Kind of odd that hed include the detail that he didnt know who would have called in a tip about him. The poster who kept saying they wouldnt be tipped off by police is ridiculous and has been proven wrong. Shins. Just let us hear it. r319 Jack the Ripper did something similar to Mary Kelly after he killed her in her small bedsit room. R67 You have to wonder what that one girl did to "deserve" that brunt of the attack? This. . Doug Carter read a few things during the press conference that seemed to come straight from a profiler, designed fuck with the killer's mind. I mean, look at the guy in the thread about the PA murder-suicide and that was just about snow dumping! height, weight, hair color, eye color), Specific Vehicle Descriptions (i.e. None of the other people of interest turned out to be a suspect. I hope this is the guy so there can be closure. It should have been an OK thing to do. Garnett, he said, was the son of Lawrences uncle, but was living with his mother, Betty Garnett, and a stepfather, Sam Whitaker Jr., on South Adams Street in the borough. Who could harm anyone let alone a child? Her mother, Gladys Kent, was a classical dancer and was responsible for forming the children's dance troupe, the Kent Babes, Her father George was a musician and she grew up in Hayling Island, Hampshire, Educated at Does the suspect have internet access? R61 They probably thought it was just some creep following them and didn't need the police. It is speculated he told the police "I"m fucked" because he recognized 1 or 2 of the girls after their murders as having been girls he catfished. If they knew him, theyd be like, why is Coach Smith here? or whatever. They released one of the only pictures from the Delphi murders in July of 2017, a full five months after the fact. She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who I cant decide if hes a fraud or has inside info. It took the panel two hours to return with a penalty of life behind bars. R286 How did they say that? That's very short for a man. She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959) and The Avengers (1961). This presumed lack of DNA is one reason why people believe the girls weren't sexually assaulted. Some of the girls' clothing was found floating in the creek that they had been forced to cross. It was very suspect, imo. She is currently single. The Levi styled cut of his jeans and the Members Only aesthetic of the jacket suggest someone stuck in the styles of their youth. There were at least 2 deer tree stands near the crime scene. Delphi Lawrence died on April 11, 2002 at the age of 70 years. Tell you what. Almost bowed legs. (1961). Most notably: "The way you left them in those woods is not IS NOT what they're experiencing today". No details surrounding how the girls were found or their cause of death have ever been released. They withheld too much info and ended up with thousands of fruitless leads. Why have you never released the FBIs suspect profile to the public? And yes, their deaths were violent. Does LE already know who it is? Here you can see and hear the video of the suspect. And another year slips by.. His clothes make him appear to be in his 40s. One of them, Jimmy Dale Duvall, is dead now. Why are the cops on the case being so fucking mysterious? Not sure why, when the whole thing is grotesque. In Part II, the sheriff stated he had been reported as a suspect at least 3 times and had been questioned. IF that all is true, it suggests pre-planning involving multiple people. Have they consulted with the local oracle? Some believe it's related to chadwell requesting a different venue due to Delphi publicity, but the cops are no longer going to discuss any suspect publicly. The sheriff also had notable body language that could be interpreted as guilt or fear. The second sketch was of a younger looking guy. A rare development in the case was shared by cops earlier this week when they announced they were hunting for the creator of a bogus social media profile that was grooming underage girls and attempting to meet with them. Last night, I read through a long thread on Reddit and it was frightening, sad, and had information that I hadn't read before. Let's seeon one hand, this guy was found with a 9 year old girl chained up in his basement, having been kidnapped, sexually molested and beaten. The Articulate in the use of terms of art through practice. There has yet to be a break in the case, although authorities believe it just takes one piece of the puzzle to solve the horrific Delphi, Indiana, murders. So that's why it can be misleading about the age of the person in the girl's videos. If I hadnt let him take her home, she would probably be alive today.. Somehow, the meth revenge killing is less horrifying than a random sadistic redneck preying on two kids in a crime of opportunity R219 No, hes popped up on the new sub, Today is the Day, sounding defensive and even fishier. I'm sorry, a family member thinking someone is not the perp is only as good as having a good idea who IS. Like they had a name, someone to watch? Hours later, when they failed to meet their ride home at that same location it would kick off a series of events that would forever change the tiny town of Delphi, Indiana. She was stabbed in a neck artery and her heart. We recommend you to check the complete list of Famous People born on 23 March. Also, the way he was standing in one picture was almost exactly the same stance as BG. I am presuming the girl who had more physical trauma was Libby, since she was older and bigger than Abigail, and thus probably more likely to put up a fight or try to cause a scene. R192 My understanding is the Facebook page had a photo of an amateur singer as the profile photo. No one has time for that shit, Plus the mail has really become a repug propaganda site. She sent the photo to LE. (R48) On reddit a women is claiming to have images of one little girl, deceased of course. Ill tell you. It was only about a minute long and he just said he didn't do it. "We have not caught the person yet. Not surprised the suspect is a deplorable. i was wondering about this as well. The Libby Abby subreddit has been locked and gone to private. The basics: Two teen girls walking on a deserted bridge in Feb 2017 go missing and are found brutally murdered the next day, about 3/4 of a mile from the bridge. That would also account for his careful, hesitate gait, as well as the condition of the bridge, as you correctly pointed out. The following are some of the more famous murderers and how long it took police to catch them: Golden State Killer, James DeAngelo: 32 years, Green River Killer, Gary Ridgway: 19 years, John Cooper, Pembrokeshire Murders: 25 years. It was made to look like a posed corpse, imo. I want to know more about what kind of DNA they have and if it could get the killer. How many podcasts and investigative TV miniseries has it generated with, basically, no new information or new investigative leads? Did she fight back, did the killer see something about her that didn't like? I am praying they catch this guy in my lifetime. This is one of the most frustrating unsolved crimes to me. The texts from the guy who found the girls say they were not posed. Kegan could definitely be covering up other crimes (he's been arrested for child porn and other related charges so that wouldn't be crazy) but the dates of the backdated FB posts, the wiping of his phone etc. R245 could be right. R26 the FBI are involved, yeah. Just two years older than Delphi, she considered him her protector in dealing with the kids in West Chester, Lawrence said. If they have someone who is 90% a good candidate for killer, I just have him "suicide.". i thought i read that this bridge was supposed to have signs posted saying not to cross it BECAUSE it was so dangerous, rotting wood, etc. Ted Bundy even applied make-up and nail polish to the bodies, and also had sex with the bodies. I will listen to the True Crime Garage podcast. I just hope LE has enough evidence against him for a conviction. I mean proof is right in this story of what could happen. Thanks R5 I did search and didnt find anything. I believe the current theory is that it's actually Kline's father that is the prime suspect for the murders. "That young lady is a hero, that is no doubt, Indiana State Police Sgt. For other inquiries, Contact Us. On the show, did they say the sheriff was a suspect? My guess, BG acted alone and used a knife. when it had taken them for-fucking-ever to do jack shit about it and then they bungled and fucked up the search. Q. Will slip up and give a detail only he knows. I think you could be right about that being all they have UNLESS everything else is too disturbing (him talking but you can also hear the girls pleading or whatever). Investigators have yet to find a match but a change in Indiana law may help in that regard. My best guess, and I believe this has been said by many people, is that the details around the cause of death are known to only a select number of people, including the killer(s). Throughout the evening dozens of volunteers joined the search for the girls. WebPlay trailer with sound 2:43 Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in Hampstead, London, England, UK. Ok, that tattoo gave me chills. But it's his "type," the type he kills. Younger guy was based on a pic from Libby's phone, And that explains when the cops said "we've changed directions and you didn't think we would", They should have released a lot more information. R153 The recording Liberty German made, yeah. ^. A. I discovered this whilst setting my PVR. While police continue their search for the Delphi killer, people across the country have been coming up with their own theories about who is responsible. Abby's mother said that Abby would have put on makeup and done her hair if she were planning to meet a boy at the bridge that day. Yes, this IS a very interesting thought/comment. In the drone pic it looked as if one body was posed with her shirt over her head and an object lying between her legs. I agree with the OP too, it's horrible that what should be a great place with a great pasttime for kids should be ruined like that. Trump supporters galore; and more than their share of criminal element. But he didnt. I realize not all agree with my responses he said. The audio clip and still image of the suspect made it especially stick in my mind. Hopefully, it's him to give the family closure and he don't kill other girls. Delphi Lawrence died at the age of 70 years. I was sure it was Chadwell, so I dont want to get my hopes up again. They were a couple who killed children in the 60's in England. R392 I've clearly said that the tattoo could be any of the 3 women - Libby, Linda Blair in The Exorcist or his mother. Based on comments at r214 u-tube link, sounds like dudes theory is at least interesting . but the narrator is way too slow. Nor have they released the cause of death, but certain horrific details have been leaked. Im assuming he means fear on her face as the guy approaches.I cannot imagine having to view images and crime scenes like this and then go home and live normally. His family did not speak of the circumstances surrounding Delphis murder, and signs of her had been removed from the familys home on Chestnut Street. And it was in no way someone going rogue. This was a deliberate move by those handling the case to draw someone out. The full video was released by police two years later, though still it garnered no concrete leads. There was an excerpt of an interview with the Anthony shots guy. Diabolical. I have not been able to post a link for 2 days or I would be happy to. So were trying to keep the details close to our vests.. He seemed like such a gentle soul most of the time, but could snap angrily really suddenly, and then immediately go back to his gentle self again. On one of the reservoir tanks was a big (I mean huge) sign that said something like "Congratulations New York Police for Catching Son of Sam!" possible exit route of the killer(s)? R414, you dont think that the police are keeping the family informed? But I dont think in this case it was someone who knew these girls. A young male student who was in the room asserted he said something to try to save the girls. Aargh at first I knew lots . now who are all these names & initials?! The Websleuther who dug up the scanner traffic wrote: State Police out of Lafayette have an 8-county coverage area - including in and around Monticello. Years ago I went down the Beeks rabbit hole and crawled out concluding the Beeks have nothing to do with this. I stopped following this case. Hes a little bit too skinny to look like bridge guy but I can kind of see it. That can happen and then it's usually a big sum. My term ends in 2022 [and I] would love nothing more than to see someone convicted of this crime before I am out of office.. I believe it was from a first responder. license plate, year, make, model, color). Q. They stayed for most of the testimony, but left when medical examiner Halbert Fillinger testified about the case of death. Could be the same guy. I dont think you could stop yourself from screaming if threatened with a gun. God, he just looks too much like the sketch. Delphi Lawrence (23 March 1932 11 April 2002) was an English actress. The story in the video (Libertys father fingered two meth dealers and this was retribution) makes more sense.and would account for the positioning of the bodies (sexual/religious) as a huge fuck you to the father and the community as a whole. R225 I was once a teen girl and yes you do walk just to walk sometimes. I had doubts before but no longer after learning more about that terrain. What purpose would that serve if not to intentionally apply psychological pressure, via the destruction of his fantasy, which might lead to a slip-up? Kim Riley says investigators have interviewed over 1,000 people, including possible witnesses, suspects and anyone who may have information about suspicious activity on the day the girls went missing. Any murder cases where there is audio/video of the act chills me to my core for some reason. Delphi LE gave hints that they believe 2 men were involved (one older and one younger). I dont buy it at all. It ties into Libby's dad informing on the Delphi meth heads in order to get a reduced sentence for stealing a big farm tank that was full of a chemical you need to make meth. Crying into her potato salad over the stolen election. Im assuming the killer found out she had it and tried to destroy it and it was found in the water? You think they're completely different, but he's got the eyes and lips of one and the nose of the other. When they were still missing later that afternoon, family members contacted the sheriffs department for help. Here was an app that allowed me to do that without having to go visit locations, he told the Indy Star. This is as messed up as the JonBenet Ramsey murder. 1950. After the two attorneys gave their closings, the jury deliberated for three hours before returning with the guilty verdict. He was caught while abducting and trying to kill a young girl (same MO). It's creepy but it's not of one of the victims, R301, it's weird how so many crimes have these things that seem so incriminating, but aren't at all. That's preposterous. Knives, guns, ect. Delphi Lawrences income source is mostly from being a successful Actress. This goes along with the theory they know who it is. Birthday: March 23, 1926 Date of Death: The cops could have taken the images and recording from the cloud. He told the jurors that he had indeed given the statement Durnell described to police, but said it had been done so under duress, coerced by a promise to let him see his mother, whom they said had been taken to the hospital upon hearing of his arrest. As per the report, Delphi Lawrence lives in. What is interesting is that evidently the Facebook poster used a dummy account posing as a woman to answer the questions and then slipped up and used his real account to answer one question. She had a career in acting and is most remembered for her roles in The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959), and The Avengers (1959). I used to think that they were going to get a conviction, but even if they found someone they have done such a lousy job of delaying facts that fueled social media sleuths and will be great material for any defense attorney to use. I thought I would beat it all together, he said, according to the Daily Local News. For further details of our complaints policy and to make a complaint please click this link: thesun.co.uk/editorial-complaints/, Abby Williams, 13, and her best friend Libby German, 14, were murdered in February 2017, Their bodies were discovered near a river a short distance away from the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, on February 14, 2017, James Brian Chadwell II was investigated after his arrest in April. Authorities say Nations is not on their radar at this time. R207 Thats my thought. (Midday/midweek). Wasn't the sister was the last person to see them and drove them there? Cases like this are why I dont want to grt rid of the death penalty. He said that he had an idea who killed her, and had since she disappeared. and I'm leaving the joking behind. R81's theory makes sense. If sexual assault wasn't the motive, the motive must have been something else we're not aware of - such as a payback for a parent's debt. Leigh Kerr and Robert Lindsey focused on Snapchat/sexual/religious. It bothered me that another child would have to be hurt, possibly killed to solve this crime. Web15 votes, 84 comments. But even if he is connected to local police, that wouldnt stop the FBI from moving in on him, right? but since i have heard about this, there is a lower leg wound that won't go away. eta: The blood and tissue under Libby's fingernails might be her own. One of the things I found strange was the then DA saying the crime scene was "odd" and that there were three signatures. One of the cellphone pictures from the Delphi murders depicts the suspect walking down the railroad bridge toward Abby Williams and Libby German. I would like to know why the Georgia Bureau of Investigation was called in to help with this. Investigators say speculations, rumors and comparisons can actually do more to hinder the investigation than to help it. R284, there's no mention of him being into hunting or fishing but his social media had a lot of photos of him outdoors, including one of him in a tent. The enforcer would come in, commit the crime, cover it up with the second child's murder, and leave the area. Most searched terms about Delphi Lawrence on the Internet are Delphi Lawrence age, Delphi Lawrence wiki, Delphi Lawrence photos, Delphi Lawrence lover, Delphi Lawrence instagram, Delphi Lawrence facebook, Delphi Lawrence family, Delphi Lawrence salary, Delphi Lawrence height, Delphi Lawrence bio, Delphi Lawrence income, Delphi Lawrence house, Delphi Lawrence latest news, Delphi Lawrence tiktok, Delphi Lawrence dating, Delphi Lawrence musically. Weight ages you. It is frustrating to me that the real JTR was never revealed because it would be so interesting to know about his childhood and what makes a person so very sick. I dunno. Not sure if same poster but another perosn said that the audio after the down the hill line was the girls screaming, which chilled me. His father, Defields Lawrence, had died in 2001. McCauley, in her stories, noted the presence of the victims parents in the courtroom. In the film Wild for Kicks (1960), despite having dialogue and performing a task crucial to the plot, both her name and that of her character, Greta, are missing from the film's closing credits. I wish theyd nail this guy. click ACCEPT. He would also carry himself with confidence and know the lay of the land. I think justice would be to lock him in a room with some of the townspeople and let them at him. R384- STOP TRYING TO MAKE CHADWELL HAPPEN Why do you gaf, you creepy asshole. Where was Brenda Dickson? Leigh Kerr appears to be intelligent and if he/she is for real, my guess is he/she is an attorney in the DAs office. Two of these, the pictures from the Delphi murders, were found at the crime scene. Its been months, this guy clearly isnt the killer. But who knows what they are. The only other reveals were that the video is 40 - some seconds long and it ends with the guys down the hill. Yeah..:I wondered because it sounds like from her posts that he fooled them into thinking he was law enforcement. And if so, why are they withholding the name? Are they waiting for a confession? In essence, the well has not gone dry.. He targeted only one of them, imo. In that first sketch, shown below, detectives say the mans hat was changed to make his facial features more recognizable. Mere minutes saved her, poor child. It just seems odd for a serial killer to strike in the remote area hoping a couple of teenage girls stroll by. R18 I have heard that there is 7 minutes and also 40 minutes. Their hard drives would have records of communication and shouldn't that give LE some lead as to the ISP? If they'd released more info to begin with, the guy might be in prison by now. That thread was very interesting. It is not him. The teens took a walk down some historic, wooded trails on the east side of town, and ended up stepping onto the old Monon High railroad bridge. They looked like sweet girls and it pisses me off that now the people there cant even enjoy those trails. I see the outline of a gun. Her net worth has been growing significantly in 2021-2022. His father was also arrested for child molestation or something similar years prior. Real drug dealers don't go around killing children and staging crime scenes. DELPHI Three years ago, two young girls went for a walk. Fry em. It was the last time the girls were seen alive, and the recordings German collected on her phone including a chilling recording of the mans voice remains almost the only evidence ever released to the public in whats become known as the Delphi murders. Do you consider this a cold case? They are shooting themselves in the foot if they have no definitive DNA evidence because this case will go nowhere unless they exhaust the evidence they DO have. That little girl came as close to death as is possible without dying. The amount of weapons he is carrying give him the appearance of weighing more than he does, and to me it makes he seem older than his real age, jmo. for your pointless bitchery needs. State police served a search warrant at a nearby property, but no arrests were made. Knowing a little bit about that case, because I briefly consulted with one of the investigators shortly after the Golden State Killer case, I know that they have a tough investigation ahead, and they are doing everything they can to try to get that case solved.. Imagine knowing the killer is in the community, could be someone you speak to everyday and they are just walking about as if nothing happened. Actress. The sketch of the sole suspect remained posted in the town years on, as authorities have released few Delphi murders updates. Police should have been releasing more info in this case. In the video he looks to me like he's walking with a limp. 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