Is R58 a ped-o? I wondered why, on the initial Officer Coonrod bodycam videos, there was no furniture in the dining room. When they have to explain themselves preemptively or repeatedly, watch out. Maybe she wasnt very good at Munchhausening. LEONARD reported that he and . Financially she had left him no way out. Think hes still lying about some details? Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. She left her own recorded testimony and out of her own mouth she indictes herself. He is now Assistant Public Defender Leonard T. King in Laurinburg, NC.The day Chris confessed to her murder, Shananns ex-husband spoke with police and told them the following about their marriage. The Mead, CO explosion occured a year before the Watts murders. Which is what no one can explain. Said he thought another baby would fix his feelings. Well, she shouldnt have . Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? LEONARD was unable to get details from her. Shananns husband, Chris Watts, 33, can be heard singing in the background.". She was not fleeing North Carolina. Just stunning. Why? LEONARD knew nothing of SHANANNs current husband, other than what he saw on the news. "I'm worried about Shanann," she told Chris. a loan to build this house? They were a family. Hours later, Chris killed her and the girls. My partner's half sister is like this. "Omg, I was so horrified that my wife killed our kids that I crammed them in an oil tank". I thanked LEONARD for his time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watts_family_murders, Shanann Cathryn Watts, (grave marker states Shanann Rzucek), 34 and daughters Bella Marie Watts, 4 and Celeste Cathryn Watts, 3 and unborn son Nico Lee of Frederick, Colorado, died on Thursday, August 16, 2018 (obituary states August 16th, graver marker reads August 13th). He was interviewed by the CBI but he hasn't made any other public statements as far as I'm aware. At least the Watts kids had a good life while they had one. She would have freakouts where hed have to drop everything to console her. Shannan and the ex's wife were FB friends, she signed her up to Thrive but she didn't do very well with it. Strange forum, to have no way to upload images. He probably knew that already. Interesting he says when things were not going well in their relationship, thats when she poured herself into work, out late, not coming home at all etc. Spot on r147. She said on Facebook that she would return from Scottsdale on Sunday, August 12. [quote] Of course what Chris Watts did in murdering his family and especially his children was horrendously wrong. He definitely deserves life in prison - what he did was disgusting. She was 25. The only thing Chris thought about when he snuffed them out, was his personal freedom as a newly buff beefcake to fuck Nicole Kessinger as well as other women (come on, he didn't just do this for HER only), and enjoy keeping his income for himself and his own pleasures. R197, If you watch the videos when she live-streams from the deck, back beyond their house looks like a dump -- literally, the city dump. At home they would be in different rooms and she was always too busy for what LEONARD had going on. Not sure how often that happens even though Im still friends with my sons ex-wife but it would be very hard not to like her, There is an interview of an ex-girlfriend . Watts worked as an operator with the oil drilling company Anadarko. By Hello. Has everyone already forgotten the sub prime mortgage explosion of the early 2000s? Thank you so much, Your email address will not be published. r50 frankly even the kids seemed hard to root for. She was game to go camping and didnt take five hours to do her makeup and hair and nails. If you can't find the email you can resend it here. Okay. DEFINITELY 1 and 3, probably 2. Does anyone think Shan'ann killed her ugly kids, like Chrissy claimed? At first, Watts' husband, Chris Watts, agreed to TV interviews, where he appeared torn up over their disappearance and begged for their safe return. Shanann, who did direct sales for a multi-level marketing company that sold health supplements, was extremely active on Facebook, posting clients' weight-loss success stories as well as her photos from her own seemingly happy home life on a daily basis. The interest must have been insane. R111, no-fault; yes, regarding reasons for separation and division of assets. Facebook & its ilk are full of fraus like her -- none of them deserve to die but all of them are annoying as hell. She was trying to be cool and ethnic with the new spelling and pronounciation of her name. He was a wimp and trapped himself in a frustrating marriage. Billions of dollars.. Ok, well millions anyway. If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesnt mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. But despite Chris' violent actions, he seemed to have the support of his parents. what happens to all their debt now? Husband, Children & Relationships. The family of Shanann Watts paid tribute to the slain Colorado mom, her two daughters and . Shanann hidden in a very shallow grave. That's twice a year every year for 10 years. Doubtful, and is most likely the second (or third or fourth) time Shanann lies about medical costs to cover her ridiculous spending habits. 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"Last summer, Shanann and her daughters spent six weeks in North Carolina with her parents and brother before returning to the Frederick, Colorado, home she shared with Chris on Aug. 7. That was a detailed and well written article, R227; better than most others I have read about his new confession. I listened to the RedHanded podcast posted upthread. Only they know, but I bet that is the case. Someone in one of the threads said they drove through the area and it's pretty barren and underdeveloped. Four months after Shanann Watts posted that photo, her husband sits in a jail in Colorado, suspected of killing her, along with their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. I'm laughing at Scam'Ann and Sham'Ann. The ex states Shanann states she left because domestic violence. Anyway, its amazing that theres another chapter to this story; I wonder what the CO investigators could have possibly flown out to Wisconsin to hear, or what Chris could possibly think is big enough to have them come out there for. Im linking the other active DL thread (focused on Chris Watts) below. R220, did you see that house? R162: A woman with a job equals whore in your world. Six days later, she was dead -- strangled at the hands of her own husband. He said they hadn't spoken since they split and he didn't even know her current name. 107: Chris was cheating, so he had no power. I'll be back. I followed the Hart murders, too. And she had some scam going in CO. My guess is she was using the kids SS# to get clean lines of credit. Lucky for these scammers theres HIPAA. Chris Watts, 33, is charged with three counts of first-degree . The Netflix shows details the deteriorating relationship between Chris and Shanann, who began suspecting her husband was having an affair and felt he was suddenly pulling away from her. Back to Shan'ann, I think r154 has it right. She has a few anecdotes that ring true to me, but I wouldnt vouch for her absolute truthfulness. Joint for joint expenses, and yet have your own liquid accounts. She had DOUBLE Munchausen's! Talk about flood irrigation! The documentary, entitled American Murder: The Family Next Door, began streaming on September 30. No matter what most people do not resort to killing. Together with the idiotic sheriff from the Jayme Closs story, I cannot help but think, "Holy crap, Law Enforcement in this country is populated with total idiots.". But DL is the only forum that doesn't immediately shut down even the slightest criticism of this woman. Chris Watts was convicted of murdering. No, not at all R256. Otherwise, you'll just have to find some other site Chris Watts ultimately confessed to strangling 34-year-old Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant with a boy, and then smothering 3-year-old Celeste. I had no idea it was that much! She was a compelling personality. She was an odious frau and I could believe she was a Munchausen's case. I think men (more than women) think Chris Watts is attractive. He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. He assumed that SHANANN kept her policy and would have changed the beneficiary. COPS: It was determined that SHANANN WATTS was previously married to LEONARD KING, an attorney in NC. LEONARDs current wife, dabbled in Thrive, which was the same employment as SHANANN WATTS. Like he obviously must be to kill people. Its pretty simple. It's very hard to lie your way through a mortgage loan process. If you look at his fb page, shes still on his friends list. You live in Colorado and you dont go on hikes? ". A 12 yo girl took it for one day and felt amazing! Even her own mother admitted she shopped around until she got the correct diagnosis. "Virtually impossible to engage (her) in conversation." OK, but we're talking about SHAN'ANN now. And to restate the obvious again - if you are married, make sure you have your own individual accounts. @Strawheart, how do you know she didnt kill the little girls? Nickole hadn't wanted to bother Shanann's husband, Chris Watts, as he worked out in the oil fields. No, R108. In the early hours of August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado, American oil field operator Christopher Lee Watts (born May 16, 1985) murdered his pregnant wife Shanann (34) by strangulation, and their two children Bella (4) and Celeste (3) by smothering them. Whats even MORE puzzling is how she bought that first house. You're projecting your own values onto him. She built it. SHANANN was in high school when LEONARD first met her. Why does everyone keep saying, 'But back to Shannan?' Shanann Watts, 34, had two young daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste - who went by CeCe-, 3, with Chris Watts. SHANANN was in high school when LEONARD first met her. True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek, Discovery DocumentsEx husbandLeonard King. R144, Sure she fled. and missed three mortgage payments on the house that they couldn't afford. R222 everybody was exaggerating the crap out of their income and assets when applying for loans back then and getting away with it. I assure you i am not a moron. Sham'ann was a phony OCD bossy frau. I like it - two snarky, bitchy Englishwomen can be quite entertaining. I started a post on them but apparently they are not as fun to satirize as Shannan. Plus, there was a newspaper article written about the tire place she worked in in NC, and in the article her name was spelled "Shanann," and a lawsuit filed against her with her named spelled "Shanann.". Services are entrusted to Boles Funeral Home of Southern Pines. I can only imagine the medical problems that Nico would be born with R231, yes! John Forbes officiating. But I do view him as a victim. crap but that is highly unlikely as MLMs are notorious for not producing actual living incomes for their dupes. At the time of her death, Shanann Watts was 15 weeks pregnant with a baby boy she planned to name Niko. She would terrify me. I thought it was very telling of Scam'Ann's personality: SHE, and she alone, will lord over the money; yet, she was such a financial liability that her name wasn't even on the house (and I'm assuming the mortgage.). Long gone are the days where a Dad is left penniless and without children, although so many posters think that is the deal. He doesnt say but of course, we are only getting Leonards side of the story and we cant hear Shananns. He assumed that SHANANN kept her policy and would have changed the beneficiary. 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