I only purchase products from them with free shipping because they rape you on shipping. Fuck Ruger as well. They can spout their support of the 2A all day, just like Shannon Watts does, but its just words. And their ammo prices were astronomical. Sorry for the spelling error. If workers still want a job, its a reasonable commute. see: gasoline supply during any natural disaster where the govt threatens to prosecute profiteers. As far as the trigger, if the RRA has the 2-stage trigger, it is much better than the stag. Defending Your Legacy is obviously just a marketing slogan for Springfield. I dont expect everyone to feel that way. Now that I understand what occurred its pretty obvious as gunners we need to pass on Springfield and run to Henry. Should have just stuck to the point that hey, you can do anything you want to our dealers as long as you leave us out of it. Rock River Arms built its reputation on quality semi-automatic AR-pattern rifles and 1911 handguns. Screw that. No Springfield guns for me. Only Ruger has in the past few years regularly donated millions to the NRA. You shouldve made that decision because it is a piece of garbage, not because of this hysterical article. Free Shipping On Most Rifles, Upper Halves And Complete Lower Halves. There are millions of people in the US who no longer think that its enough to fight and die for these rights. Not to mention that when S&W colluded with Clinton they were owned by the British engineering firm Tomkins. Illinois gun owners should pack up and move across the Mississippi to Missouri. Other places have them for $200.00. No more. These lobbyists arent in business to protect gun owners or the Second Amendment. Nothing Springfield will ever be in my collection now. So I have to ask. Not everyone reads TTAG or keeps up with this sort of in the weeds stuff. My time stinks apparently. Most places, its still over $1500. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Black Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Brake Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751B; Rock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Flat Dark Earth (FDE) Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Br Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751T; In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved. Peoplr lose jobs, get divorced, buy better guns and so on. The lobbyists sometimes seriously overestimate how happy something will make a member or simply dont have the time to keep the membership completely up to date with minute-by-minute updates on how wrangling over a bill is proceeding. The innovation and embracing of modern ideas weve seen the last 10yrs (MSRs, suppressors, polymer everything, etc) never would have happened under Bill. The original company lives on today under the name Winche ster. Neither excuse is a proper justification. Plenty of folks out there shooting LWRC, ArmaLite, DPMS who would argue theirs are reliable, accurate, & mo betta too. Oh yes, the Senator behind the bill has many skeletons, http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/illinois-state-senator-don-harmon-law-firm-makes-millions-from-state-agencies-pension-funds-the-watchdogs-oak-park/. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History. He supported this legislation, (by not opposing it) that LIMITS CIVILIANS TO 9 FIREARM TRANSFERS PER YEAR!!!! Tennessee welcomed Beretta with open arms and the employment of a lot a lot of people in well-paying jobs. If CTD notices panic buying, cancels prior sales and refunds them, so it can resell stuff that belonged to its customers, thats not their right. If you apply more than 9 make-ups in a year, you are in cosmetology businesses. That will never happen now. Tony- IFMA is SAs and RRAs lobbying firm(as opposed to an existing firm that SA hired. I sent an email and their response was the parts were out of stock. Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. Well I will see if I can make a good trade for STI, Para, or a cz had a cz 85 combat one time and traded it, was a real good gun in a 9 mm.Things like this is realy bad just cant trust anyone anymore. Be everywhere until the bill is toast. CTD is my last choice. We reserve the right to adjust product prices as dictated by the market.. They fixed the old rifle, returned it to me and offered me the M1A for all the troubles I had experienced. A corrupt Illinois politician. The lobbyist for the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), Jay Keller,traded that groups opposition to the bill in exchange for a carve-out, removing PrairieState firearms manufacturers from the licensing requirements. Another dealer told me he wished Springfield well. In fairness, Sprin gfield Arm ory isnt the only one to co-opt a name that it had no connection to (cough-Henry-cough). If RRA really didnt know about this, then their next steps should be to cancel their membership in IFMA, denounce the lobying they did, and maybe start looking to move. No, they stood by and let their customers get screwed. Rock River LAR-8 .308. theyre NOT trapped in Illinois,they can relocate,same as other gun companies have done. Had a Springfield 1911 that I sold late last year to fund another purchase and was thinking of replacing it with a TRP at some point guess this gives me all the excuses I needed to spend a few hundred more for a Dan Wesson or an STI. Henry and Ruger get my votes for Americas Gunmakers. Its like trying to work with Bloomberg himself. is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. This is how capitalism works. I have family that works in the town. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Fred Eichler Predator 223 Remington/5.56 NATO AR15 Semi Auto Rifle $ Remove from Compare Add to Compare. If CTD notices panic buying, shuts down their site and reprices everything, thats their right. I will now buy another LAR-8 in case you idiots force RRA out of business. Beretta kicked Maryland to the curb for their ridiculous gun laws. But I didnt detect a lot of love in his words. Theyve earned back the support of 2A advocates, imo. Springfield cleaning to get the taint out of there. Current employees would be welcone to come along, otherwise there are many good and talented Americans looking for work. Now Springfield will learn the hard way. thats the one ive just stopped considering. So Rock River Arms story is complete crap and a bald faced LIE on the order of, I did not have sex with that women. If IFMA had stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the NRA-ILA, the Illinois State Rifle Association, Guns Save Lifeand the National Shooting Sports Foundation working as a team to oppose this egregiousbill wed have had a good chance of depriving anti-gunners of a badly needed win. Rock River Arms is one of the largest manufacturers of AR-15 rifles in the United States. Illinois acts like an evil, independant country when it comes to our Second Amendment rights, ignoring law and constantly jockeying for ways to squelch our right of self-protection through our right to bear arms. I posted a similar comment on another article about the same subject matter, but again, and for emphasis: SPRINGFIELD IS DEAD TO ME. Specifications and Features: Rock River Arms AR-15 Magazine AR0116N30 .223 Remington and 5.56 NATO 30 Round Capacity Anti-Tilt Follower Proven Reliability Not a smart move in a buyers market, or any really. Thank you for bringing this issue to the forefront. CEODennis Reese hasntresponded to a request for comment or a further statement beyond the one he released Thursday night. RRA and Mr Larson are the only ones who can make a reliable AR-10. Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 LEF-T 5.56mm Tactical Operator AR-15 Left-Handed Rifle Notify Me When Available; Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: LH1278; Rock River Arms LAR15 You see once you jump in bed with the marketing types and throw millions at image you quickly discover that your rudder fell off long ago and now youre not sure what you stand forif anything. Hindsight is always 20/20 and the Liberal Dems are always after our Firearms Freedoms. And the law mainly affecting small businesses, thats a feature, I think, not a bug. Some times they have deals. Illinois cant shut down a business that way No there is no way around it, RRA and Springfield decided their Illinois customers where not worth the trouble. My inventory of six XD pistols two 1911 .45s and two M 1As will be up for sale tommorow. I cannot in good conscience support in any way a company that would pull this kind of stunt. Its their prerogative. I really wanted a trp and a cqb but oh well will get something from another manufacturer. When Colorado banned high cap magazines magpul moved to Texas. Good luck RRA. Thats bad math and bad leadership. Thats how capitalism works. Well also work on the NRA to start taking a firmer stance against rogue anti-2A manufacturers, no matter how much advertising space they buy. Now they piss on us and tell us its raining? Moved my medical business AND brought my family. The company was founded in 1996 by brothers Mark and Lynne Zanders. Hes told several industry types that he had no contact with IFMA lobbyist Jay Keller and knew nothing of this carve-out. Glad I waited. I agree. This says a lot about the people running the company. $14.95 Per Firearm One $9.99 Charge For Any Amount of Accessories Good grip, low muzzle flip/recoil, ambi controls, no mag safety and very easy to strip/reassemble. I would have called my lawyer, the NRA and a publicist. Two? Out of stock Compare. But Illinois only has about 2.1m gun owners of 12m population thats fewer by a significant margin than the number of hard-core urban Dems in Chicago alone. Bonus was it was stainless frame and made in the USA. I thought it was great that they were living in the same liberal hell hole that I was living in. Half of those are national groups out of Washington, D.C., that have set up shop inSpringfield hotels. To whom will they sell? Maybe then you can explain it to the pussy who wrote this article. As a long-time, dedicated anti-gunner, this wasnt Senator Harmons first legislative rodeo. How does a company respond to pernicious laws and an atmosphere which is detrimental to the People of the Gun? An American didnt screw all other American gun-owners. I wanted one with the threaded barrel and suppressor sights. They rebrand the HS2000 as the XD and jack up the price $200. Are they doing town halls? They are actively editing social media but refuse to address the issue. AND everyone that the lobbyist represents must be in agreement. What part of their history am I missing Gov? Are you aware it was Bill Ruger who testified before Congress that nobody needs more than 10 rounds? Springfields CEO on the other hand, either through stupidity, hamhandedness or outright lying has seriously damaged his company. Who Makes Rock River Arms? How many model airplanes can I buy, sell or trade in one year? If you are willing to do 9mm, check out an Honor Guard. Rock River Arms guarantees this pistol will shoot 2.5-inch groups at 50 yards with 185-grain Federal Gold Medal Match semi-wadcutter ammo. Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. Most dont buy a gun thinking about selling it down the road, bit it happens. So Rock River spent at least $50.000 fund the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association. Dont own a Springfield anything and now never will. If you dont support Ruger you dont support American ideals. It is the fault of the people in Illinois. Reese is a business guy, not a gun guy, as this video demonstrates: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkfjwStDUUQ, At 1:02 hes pointing the XD at the host (which Leathem mentions, ?). These fat dumb and happy political hacks arent used to burning time and money on issues this far out. And yes, they are actually closer to Iowa than to Chicago. There is too much crap that I dont have a choice on (can you believe EVERY RV tire is made in China? A big reason that these rifles shoot so well is the barrel. The barrels Rock River use come from the Connecticut-based company, Wilson Arms (wilsonarms.com). Wilson makes the barrel, contours it and starts the chambering process. This is a digital day/night scope. You ask what was Springfield supposed to do? F them. Posted: 1/27/2021 10:51:01 AM EST. My favorites in their calibers, cherished in my collections. But theyve already heard from their customers about the IFMA sell-out. Its transfers. Whats more, Larson seems genuinely appalled by what happened. Find Senators and Representatives in close political battles last election and get their previously defeated opponents on board. Such a thing exists. Bill Ruger retired from the company in 2000 and died in 2002. I think they and Illinois deserve each other and I hope they both end up on the wrong end of history. Even cosmetologists and lawyers. The Illinois Manufacturers Association will continue to fight and protect not only manufacturers, but dealers and the gun owner as well.. ! mantra. I hate to say this Tony, but you are completely clueless about lobbyists. Ben Franklin once said, If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately.. Not cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but check out Fulton Armory: http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. Probably hard now to sell it for half what you paid if at all. Its called doing business. Huh? Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. You are both dead to me now. I hope that it will bankrupt them, for it appears to be the only way these gun companies will learned to to alienate their comsumers. As the market changes so does our pricing. I was a dedicated 1911 guy and really wanted to stick with something with a grip safety like the EMP contour or even the R-51. I swear its getting hard to keep track of them all by memory. This is why I said should not will. I have been casually looking at getting a 1911. The licensing fee? Even if its expensive, SA is in a better position to pay the fee than Hank and Ethels gun shop. Yuge. +1, they are a bunch of liars praying on the ignorant. For a while there, post SAFE-ACT passage, it looked like 10-round (I know, right) mags were going to be outlawed. He was busted before for bribing a Colonel on a Salvadorean arms deal. If youre looking begin your 3-Gun or short-stage PRS competition endeavors, the Rock River Arms RRAGE 2G may be your ticket. Good for them. If theres a silver lining here, this law should be shot down by the courts. I would move EVERYTHING 25 miles West to Davenport Iowa. Smith and Wessons deal with the Klinton regime also brought us the infamous and deplorable hillary hole internal lock. I can promise that none, and I mean none of my not unsubstantial refund, is going to wind up in Springfields receivables account. First, they co-opt the name of a famous military armory to start a business with absolutely no ties to the original Springfield. Thats a double-whammy of reduced demand in the current market. We need more FFLs down here so there will be some competition. Its a FACT that those brands are twice the price as Ruger. Find gray, black, tan, alpine and other finishes on these .223 Rem / 5.56mm, .450 Bushmaster or 6.8 SPC chambered rifles. And then maybe. I am not positive, but didnt Beretta get so pissed with Maryland that they moved everything, or is it still on going? Im not ordering anything Springfield. If truth about guns knows whats good for them, theyll be taking this story down and apologizing publicly for spreading untrue assumptions. So I went on a buying spree. WebA similar thing happened with Yeti and the NRA, where Yeti ended their NRA-specific discount program but included them in a broader discount program. Good for them, too. Since you researched IFMA you also noticed that the $100K was the ONLY money they had in their account, donated by only two companies, SAI and RRA. Do you know how much the dealer bought them for? WebRock River Arms Two Stage Match Trigger Kit4.5-5 lbThe RRA match AR trigger kit is designed for AR-15 and AR-10 Mil-Spec lower receivers with .154 trigger and hammer pins. I totally agree Travis. Rock River Arms has Your arguments are supercilious and embarrassingly logic free. As I said on Thursday, when it comes to RRA I was, and still am, unsure if they had any foreknowledge of what was about to occur. So I got the mags from a third party seller and have refused to do business with them ever since. THEY MUST PARISH AND EVERYONE WHO DOESNT BACK ME IM GONNA CURSE AT AND BE MEAN TO!!! Ive heard of them canceling orders. God Bless America, As a dealer I will no longer suggest either one of these firearm companies to my customers or stock them there are many other fine firearms on the market. Theres no way to know for sure. James Jeffrey, the author's friend, They ignored it. His quote was basically the above damned if I do damned if I dont and that it wasnt worth the headache. Bill may not have been perfect (who is), but his passion for firearms was solid and he was known as Americas Gunmaker, for good reasons. The Rock River Arms LAR-15 RRage 3G 5.56/.223 Rifle is a semi-auto rifle that delivers accurate shooting in a dependable platform with a clean, trim look. Kahr moved out of NY. Made in US, SSteel frame, ambi controls, no mag safety, field strips/assembles in less than a minute with no tools or pulling trigger. All businesses are licensed at the state level. I dont have anything from either of the turncoat manufacturers and based on their actions, I never will. Cant this fool see how much this is going to hes going to hurt his own pocketbook for this tiny edge? Well do our part in other states to support you. An M1A was at the top of my wish list that I saving for. Join up with other interest groups if common goals can be found. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. Id bet a bunch of employees would jump at the chance go move from IL to TN or MO or TX. However, if youre willing to spend a little extra money on your rifle, Rock River Arms is definitely worth considering. No wonder were in trouble, POTG are clueless. Springfield makes decent guns but there are others out there. Compare. Springfield Armory is a dishonest operation from stem to stern. If these dam gun man. So, youre not buying a bunch of Springfields new pistols? I asked one. 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